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Michael Caton's avatar

Your central concern here seems to be that psych diagnoses are syndromes, ie groups of symptoms empirically observed to frequently cluster together, rather than fully elaborated pathophysiologies. This is trivially true, and I think most psychiatrists reading this would say, "Yes, they're syndromes, duh. I wish we understood the disease process better and why our meds sometimes work, but in the meantime we can use described syndromes as guides for when and how to treat." There's value in identifying the clustering patterns but sometimes it really is just defining a cutoff at the extreme end if a spectrum of traits. That said, I completely sign onto your criticisms of the implicit assumptions about psychiatric diagnoses (like diminished responsibility for actions), but that's more a broader problem of the.broader culture having conflicting ideas about agency.

There is another point of contention where I couldn't tell if you were being humorous, which is to say a condition is neurologic rather than psychiatric. In general what this usually means is "can we image it with current technology " (if yes, it's neurological.) Obviously if someone consistently is found to have a set of cognitive or behavioral traits, some physical.charctteristics of their central nervous system are causing it, even if it's just the circuits that are the neural correlates for a set of dysfunctional beliefs that would be best treated with CBT. Again trivial, but this nuance is often lost among physicians who just need to decide which specialty to refer to, and take the distinction to be one of kind rather than a pragmatic one based on diagnostic technique.

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Nutrition Capsule's avatar

This is a good take. I'm not sure I understand what your conclusion is, though.

To follow your example, let's assume the following things are true: SBD generally leads to a decreased quality of life. People suffering from SBD are not as likely to help themselves as they are to get help from healthcare. Healthcare provides interventions, some of which help with SBD and seem to improve the patient's life.

The obvious question in this case is: what does it matter if we do not have an encapsulating definition on the precise etiology of SBD? If these people need help, and if we can help them, shouldn't we help them even if we knew we didn't understand precisely why the help works?

Research is ongoing, and perhaps some people will even question whether SBD exists as a disease by itself, as contrasted with it being a symptom or a manifestation of some other issues. And this is beneficial, ok and useful, but I think it's obvious we should still help people with SBD during that conversation.

Yes, perhaps this also applies to ADHD.

Particularly, I think that argument holds for most diseases we can identify and treat, more or less succesfully. Only in very rare cases do we understand nearly all of the necessary pathological processes, but in a lot of cases we understand enough to be able to treat.

That is, so what if ADHD doesn't exist? So what if 'coma' doesn't exist? So what if 'psychosis' doesn't exist? If we know we're in a dark maze and we know a way out, I don't think it's necessarily bad to follow that way out even if we don't really know why it is a way out, or whether it is the best way out.

Yes, I'm sure medicine in the 2000s is prone to cargo cult -like behavior (as in the case of SBD) just like it was 200 or 300 years ago, although less so. However, I think that merely pointing that out accomplishes relatively little. It's an important piece of meta-information to hold in the back of our minds, especially if a disease turns out very difficult to understand or treat, but I don't think it's very useful most of the time.

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